From: JJKennerly
Subject: Re: Ice
Date: 1997/09/22
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard

On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Austin wrote:

.> rock meth is to ice as crack is to freebase
.>
.> methedrine - meth tablets
.> meth - powder
.> crank - liquid meth
.> crystal - rock meth
.> ice - freebase meth

>    No, no.  Ice is 4-methyl-aminorex.  Nothing to do with methamphetamine other
>than that it is also a stimulant.  Supposedly stimulated the IQ as well.  There
>are FAQ's on it.Austin.

"Ice" has referred both to 4MAR and to extremely pure methamphetamine or
amphetamine HCl, generally stereospecific as well (dextroamphetamine or
dextromethamphetamine)

"methedrine" referred to methamphetamine tablets, yes, but these havent been
on the market for quite some time that I am aware of - perhaps the situation
is different in other countries. What is available in he USA now is "Desoxyn",
which i believe is time-released methamphetamine (its suspended in a plastic
gradumet).

levorotary methamphetamine (levomethamphetamine, l-methamphetamine,
l-desoxyephedrine) is also available over-the-counter by exemption here, as
"Vicks Inhalers" and many generics. Extraction can really only get you in
trouble, as I just cant picture some cop out there with optical filters to
determine the rotation... although I have heard of people using them as cut in
d-methamphetamine produced by the reduction of l-ephedrine or
d-pseudephedrine, sometimes just as cut, other times to create effects
familiar to users of methamphetamine produced from reductive amination of
phenylacetone (P2P) and methylamine.

Of course, most hard drug addicts couldn't care less, as they will put any
color or odor of substance up their nose, in spite of being told that the
substance ought to be a clear white powder... sad really, to think of the
untold lives ruined by contaminents...

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From: (Samson)
Subject: Re: Ice
Date: 1997/09/19
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard

In article <3421ed37.5278402@news.wincom.net>, sfh666luna wrote:

> ice - freebase meth

No. The free base is a liquid.



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