From: an422910@anon.penet.fi (D.)
Subject: Pantopon
Date: 1995/12/20
newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard


I used to get Pantopon and Morphine Sulfate in very small dissolveable
tablets that came in very long and narrow glass tubes.  They were very
similar, as you would expect.  In fact I had always read about pantapon and
thought that it might be superior to most opiates because of it's alkaloid
mix.  It has been a very long time but I recall that it may have been
slightly more nauseating than morphine or heroin.  Same pins and needles
rush as morphine.  All of these pharmaceuticals came from either pharmacy
pilfering (the labels on the tubes were ancient although the drugs seemed
as strong as fresh ampules) or burglaries.  I never see them anymore.  Is
security that much tighter? I suspect that cheap smack has taken a lot of
the profit out.

I was browsing the PDR the other day and Pantopon was not listed.

Happy holidays to all.


D.


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From: on@the.nod (Mrs. Winslow)
Subject: Re: Morphine (Blues), (ENDO)
Date: 1995/12/16
newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard


[...]

Pantopon aka Papaveretum, is the name given to any compound of purified opium
alkaloid extracts. Instead of simply extracting all the active alkaloids from
opium and putting them in the same percentages in the compound, Pantopon
usually is adjusting to contain 50% morphine (whereas it would be around 10%
tops in morphine itself) and 50% the other alkaloids (codeine, papaverine,
noscapine). In the old days particularly, many physicians preferred Pantopon
compounds because they felt they provided a more "balanced" analgesia than
straight morphine, for instance that the papaverine relaxed muscles enough to
prevent retching. Apparently most modern physicians say this is bullshit and
that the morphine is the only important ingredient.

What I want to know is: did any of you have any problems using these IV?? Why
didn't the codeine give you edema, etc???

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