From: (Peter McDermott) Subject: Re: Morphine Sulphate Date: 1997/01/30 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard >Let's just say he wanted more immediate gratification. > >You know what I mean. Indeed. >Let's say he wants to know if any water soluble additives of these >tablets might make this an unwise endeavor. What's 'unwise'? How long is a piece of string? There are those who would say that using these things any way is unwise, and I don't know that I'd disagree with them. That said, the active ingredient _is_ soluble. It's best to crush the tablets and shake in boiling water, then filter to extract the morphine. Though personally, I never actually bothered filtering them myself on the grounds that it would inevitably remove some small portion of the product, and I was a pig. The only real health risk is venal thrombosis from the binders building up in your veins. You could probably minimize this by filtering the solution several times, especially after cooling when it resolidifies. ==================================================================== From: (Cretin) Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Subject: Re: I.V MS Contin Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:12:02 GMT On Sun, 08 Mar 1998 00:39:27 +1000, Hammy spake thusly: >Happened to come across a gram of MS Contin a few days ago. >(28 x 30mg and 17 x 10mg = 1010mg to be exact) >Well since they are slow release (even when crushing >the tablets it still took about half a hour to get a hit), I >tried cooking the stuff up to use IV. But when you cook the >stuff it turns into thick liquid ( I guess the tablets are made >out of gelatin or something, thus making them slow release). > >anyway, has anyone shot this stuff without purifying it? > >and if not, > >How can I purify it, so it is suitable for IV injection? First, use warm water to wash off the colored coating(love those grey ones!)and don`t forget to put the drainplug in or you might find your high falling into the sink. Next, crush the pill. I find that it crushes far easier when gently heated. My method was to place the pill onto a large soupspoon, and heat it gently over a hot element on the stove for about 30 seconds. Crush it as best as possible, then spray a good 200 units(2 1cc syringes full) of water into the spoon. Cook it gently, stir the mixture with the butt-end of the plunger. Get a big filter and suck away. The guck will be tough to suck up, having the consistency of jism. Sorry- that`s the best analogy I could come up with. It might take a few attempts before you get a fitfull. Don`t throw out the leftover goop- add more water, heat it up again, and away you go. It should be obvious by now that Contins are not well-suited for injection. I have seen the most horrid abscesses result from missing with this crud. It *does* work- you`ll get that Morphine pins and needles fire all through your head and extremeties. Personally, I used to shoot the Contins *only* when I had no hope of finding H, and I was feeling sickness coming on. If you don`t have a big habit, or if you have no habit at all- you`re gonna get much higher by gobbling them. ==================================================================== From: newmz Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Subject: Re: MS Contin Prep? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:23:45 GMT In article <6qn494$q5u@drn.newsguy.com>, Rocketman wrote: > I just scored some 30mg MS Contin pills at one of those great > family get togethers. I've never had this one before. What is the > best prep method for some IM shooting without setting up too much > stuff? > peel off the pink/purple "skin" or wet your fingers and gently rub it off. put the white waxy pill you have left in a big spoon and crush it as much as possible. squirt on about 2 or 3 ml (cc) of water nd cook it for about 30sec to a minute. don't let it dry! add more water if you have to. while still hot (you should notice layers of waxy pill binder on top, water underneath containing morph) filter through fairly largish cotton the water layer underneath into your kit. leave the wax in the spoon, you can add more water to this and recook if you want, personally i just scrape it off and put it in some juice or something and drink it. be careful to try to avoid sucking up the waxy pill binder when it's still melted, it will cool down and block the needle. use as much water as you can fit in the syringe, without going crazy so you end uo with a big bubble when you shoot it. if the syringe ever blocks, place it in a glass of hot water to melt the wax, squirt into a clean spoon and re-filter it. now you can i/m this stuff. don't i.v. it! you can never completey get all the gunk out and it's safer to have it deposit in a large muscle (like your butt cheeks) than in your heart or lung. ==================================================================== From: "kontac" Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Subject: Re: shooting MST continus Date: 26 May 1999 Larry Merchant wrote > The way it was told to me here: peel outer covering, crush to > very fine, add enough water so that scum will float when heated, > filter. That stuff is great subcutaneous, no ms pins and needles, > very smooth. Larry, shooting MST into tissue can cause problems due to the wax. It leaves lumps and bumps and can block up capillaries. It really depends how clean you get them I spose and AA helps that allot. If the blast is milky white or cloudy it contains lots of wax. Boiling several peeled powdered tabs in say 20ml of water and cooling in an ice bath will rise the wax to the top which sets and can be scraped off, then filter and render down to appropriate volume for a blast or two, filtering once more before placing in the syringe. ==================================================================== From: "kontac" Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Subject: Re: shooting MST continus Date: 29 May 1999 "fiendgirl" asks: > so what does the baking soda do then? Seems to get them a lot cleaner. The binder isn't as soluble in alkaline solutions. The baking soda stuff has been used in Auckland. The best MST's or rather the cleanest were with baking soda. Now when I first did it I put the baking soda in with the pill powder then added double and baking them both in a spoon tightly covered with a tinfoil lid. Baking at approx. 110 Celsius for an 3/4 of an hour or so then removing the lid and leaving in the oven (now turned off) and left to dry out for another couple of hours while the oven cooled. Now apparently I was not supposed to throw the soda in with the AA and pill and cook together but it worked and not only worked but came up clear, colourless, and not a hint of binder. The oven was just the right temp and didn't caramelize the pill but rather left it pink. I'm not a fan of MST but I've like fucking with them. Putting MST through a bucher filter is best and pegging out the morphine powder just like a bake. Ten hundreds gives 20 cc of shit kicker gear. From: "Vu" Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Subject: Cooking MS was: Re: MS contin (morphine) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 15:37:19 +1200 Okkkkkkkkkkkkk.. I'm gonna do it now or I'll never get around to it... 1. Clean soup spoon (or similar size) and rub down with prep pad. Do the same for whatever you are going to use to crush the pill (I use a tesspoon). 2. Heat the pill on the spoon to soften it up (always be careful not to burn what you're preparing) and crush the pill. 3. Add baking soda (not baking powder) to the pill.. I use about 1/2 the amount as there is of pill, some people use more or less. 4. Add a little water and slowly swirl around the spoon while heating. The idea is to COMPLETELY dry out the mix around the spoon as eavenly as possible. 5. When the pill/baking soda mix has dried out completely, slowly add AA (acetic anhydride (can someone confim the scientific name)) to cover the dried out mix. Start at the outside and drip it on. You can use as much as you want, but it takes longer to get it out. 6. Heat the spoon to evaporate the AA. This can take a while if you've put too much in. Don't burn the goods (although you can let it get pretty dark). You will need to check for AA by smell testing the spoon. AA has a strong vinegar smell to it so check for that. Idealy get someone who knows the routine to take you through this though. 7. When the AA has burned off you've got as close to heroin as I'm gonan get. You should add water and citric acid to disolve the goodness into the water. Suck up through filters etc etc same as H. Now this isn't probably the most econimical way of doing things but it is pretty quick. I'm usually too busy to wait hours for large amounts of AA to evaporate off. Etc etc. There are other people here in NZ that post and will hopefully point out improvements to this crap..