From: iple.mult@asm.org Subject: Re: Whats in the Tar???? Date: 1995/09/05 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard >>Just curious, does anyone know what binds smack. Whats the gummy black >>tar like substance, besides the smack itself? Is it toxic, etc. Surely >>appreciate an answer....Laters. > >I think its just smack, Jane. A cruder, less refined form than the >powder. > Ever seen opium? Tar contains all sorts of of leftovers from crude opium that are removed when producing white number four heroin or brown number three heroin base. It's clearly a heroin salt (not a base) as it dissolves readily in water, and the best tar can be close in purity to number four (rare though). But it's got much of the color and flavor of it's opium ancestor. Now a good question is whether it contains (on average) much of the other active components of opium, like codeine, papaverine, etc. I know that I never experienced any of the nasty side effects that codeine is supposed to produce IV (skinned it without problems though) when shooting tar. But then, maybe that codeine stuff is a myth, I don't think I ever read\heard that anywhere but in Burroughs. Does anyone have a PDR or Merck handy? _Can_ codeine be safely mainlined?? (who would want to is another question...) ==================================================================== From: Squest@cris.com (Steve Quest) Subject: Re: Tar vs. white heroin Date: 1996/08/01 newsgroups: alt.drugs.chemistry,alt.drugs.hard Douglas Wiggins (zoron@teleport.com) wrote: : I know someone who is a heroin user, and he said that the tar he uses : destroys his veins, but that white heroin doesn't. I know that, years The black tar ball shit that a friend of mine uses DISGUSTS me, He'd been trying to get me to try it for a long time, but I'm not stupid. I watch it make him sick, AND it reeks of acetic smell, it has to be as impure as you can get. When I was using heroin, it was a brown powder, not a black tar. Asian brown heroin was common 10 years ago. : This guy said that there is some chemical which is not available where : the tar comes from but which is available in the states which makes : the difference between tar and white heroin - I would be guessing if I : said acetic anhydride, but that is my guess. Can anyone clear me up on : this? I am not sure I would tell him if someone were to put down how : to purify tar, as it would probably involve dangerous chemicals and I : don't trust him with that kind of stuff. Still, if I could suggest : something which would reduce the destruction, maybe he would be in a : little better health (he always seems run-down.) Just a guess, they apply acetic anhydride directly to opium gum (latex) and sell it. That would explain the gum (latex) and the color as well as the odor of acetic acid. I don't recommend poisoning yourself with black tar, unless you solvent extract it first, and maybe not even then! It's just poor quality drug, pure and simple................sq