From: Them@There.edu (Who) Subject: Re: Ready to snort smack - question: how? Date: 1995/07/31 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard >You SNORT coke - you SNIFF smack! If you're going to post to correct someone's use of slang, then it's fair game to ask why someone using a NYC net provider is calling heroin "smack". No NYC fiend has used this term since the 60's. "Dope" is the normal term here, "Manteca", "P-Funk", or a number of lesser terms make the rounds, but not "Smack", a term dating back to the days when a substantial number (if not the majority) of fiends were Jewish and which is derived from the Yiddish "Schmeck" meaning "taste". A fiend in 1910 was a "Shmecker"- a "taster". And I've found that "sniff" has largely replaced "snort" no matter what the drug being hoovered... ==================================================================== From: staring@my.screen (Samson) Subject: Re: questions-o-rama Date: 1996/12/29 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard > >In some cases, sure. But the "horse-smack" dichotomies you draw are not > >quite accurate. It seems to me, for the most part, that "smack" is largely > >a part of a white lingo from a bygone era. (The derivation of the term is > >Yiddish -- from "schmeck" or "schmeckeh", "taste" -- according to most > >sources) .It is still used nostalgically by many who like to remember the > >"good old days" (even if they weren't there...) But the standard "trade > >lingo" is _dope_, with various regional variations, eg, "d" or "diesel", > >abounding. But if you ask for "smack", usually you'll just get a funny > >look from the average street distributor. (And, oh the surprise, if you > >ask for "dope" and expect to get "weed"...) > > Not here. Smack is still fairly common use in England, and the local > (none-too-affectionate) popular term for most heroin users here in > Liverpool is 'smackhead' (as followers of the soap-opera, Brookside > will be well aware.) Interesting, again. I still think that it remains a white-Anglo term, though. In my (limited, quantitatively and geographically) experience, I have never heard a black or latino user/seller use the word "smack", nor have I found any who knew what it even meant. But, thinking back, I did first come across the word, myself, in my Led Zeppelin-obsessed teen years, reading about the band and their follies... ==================================================================== From: jaxsun@tesser.com (Jackson) Subject: Re: Heroin neighborhoods Date: 1997/01/20 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard >> > Boy and girl are apparently (or were) actually used phrases. Jazz >> > saxophonist Pony Poindexter uses them in his autobiography (hard to find >> > but excellent) and if I am not mistaken I ran across the same terms in >> > Malcom X's autobiography. I have never heard them actually used. IN SF >> > dope was usually tar and in Portland OR it was chiva with few deviations. >> > In Boston I have ocasionally heard it referred to as "Hair roo on" or a >> > pronounciation like that. >> >> a lot of the black dudes out here call it 'her-ON'. like the bird. >> Heron. I don't know if you ever read any of my previous posts on this but "Boy" and "Girl" are still used in the South. In S.Fla. (which consists more of New Yorkers and Cubans) you would ask for say "4 Boy and 1 Girl" for a speedball. They're Dime "Caps",Not packs,decks or even ballons but gelatine caps?? This was of course totally ridiculous because of the Humidity(85-95) and the fact that I kept them in my sweaty palm until I got out of those "Neighborhoods". It may have it's roots in the past but still is used throughout Miami @ least . Also as you said Heron was one used in Miami too. When I first moved outside Denver and tried to cop on the streets in Downtown. I was at a diadvantage as I didn't know what to call Dope? It's all controlled by the Mexicans (illegals) here, where everywhere else I ever saw it ,it was the Black areas that sold it. I tried copping out here three time before getting ripped for a $100 and giving up and going on the "Doc Hop" for Tylox mostly. Anyway after 8 yrs.(I was'nt that anxious to get robbed again,plus was on Methadone) I found there were called pills,ballons or quarters(depending on the amount you needed).. It wasn't until last year that I found out about the "Scene" here after a Friend had a divorve and a decent settlement that recouped some of the ten years($$) he had worked and behaved!. Well I went over there several weekends til I realized this Guy was one lonely and unhappy person. And Misery likes company. Just not mine anymore, as I won't allow it even if it is Free. Not worth it. Plus is'nt it funny how people will always turn you "on" when your not strung out ,but make you jump thru hoops when you are?? Jackson ==================================================================== From: mondeZORCH@sirius.com (Monde) Subject: Re: I NEED SLANG & STREET WORDS FOR HEROIN Date: 1997/10/23 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard chiva is the most common name in California... pronounced "cheeva", it's spanish for "billy goat", 'cuz it kicks you in the ass! ==================================================================== From: chart96984@aol.com (CHart96984) Subject: Re: I NEED SLANG & STREET WORDS FOR HEROIN Date: 1997/10/25 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Horse, Smack, Skagg, Gear,H,Henry are some of the names used around here Andy Dorset England ==================================================================== From: somebody@unplay.org (Amorphous) Subject: Re: I need slang & street words for heroin References: <877022180mnewsJeff@BirdNest.com> Date: 1997/10/16 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard In article <877022180mnewsJeff@BirdNest.com>, Jeff@BirdNest.com (Birds) wrote: >In Philly, when you want H, you ask for 'DOPE' and its one and only >meaning is Heroin. Indeed. The first time I tried to buy, I asked for "smack". The guy was like, "what's smack?" Dope is the term of the trade. In NYC, on the LES (years ago), dealers would come right up to you and ask "'d' or 'c'" - 'd' of course, being dope, and 'c' cok In Boston 'diesel' is commonly used. The local media says it's because "it's so powerful, it's like 'diesel'". I have no idea where they came up with that. Whe So the LES has suffered a crackdown, and the Mission Hill Projects are a pile of rubble now. Times they are a' changin' Where have all the dealers gone... This land is my land, this land is your land. ==================================================================== From: somebody@unplay.org (Amorphous) Subject: Re: I NEED SLANG & STREET WORDS FOR HEROIN Date: 1997/10/17 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard In article <3446ebd0.7324907@news.wincom.net>, sfh666luna wrote: > tar, dirt and china Ah, how chauvinistic of me to forget the west. "Dope", of course, is the universal term of the Eastern Seaboard, since all dope is white to off-white powder. I There's "mud" and there's tar -- "chiva", "chiclosa", "Mexican mud", et. al. Chiva means goat. Refers to the smell of acetone. I don't know how anyone becomes a junky west of the Mississipi.