From: blah@blah.blah (Some wacky pseudonym) Subject: Re: Advice on how to do Heroin needed Date: 1996/01/21 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard In article <4drlen$1pm@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, crystllthr@aol.com (CrystlLthr) wrote: > I want to try Heroin. Can anyone tell me how to start. Please no sermons. > I'm looking for practical advice. How do you go about finding it in a > major city. I can't see driving around and just asking people on the > street corner. "Do you have any Heroin?" > Any help you can give is appreciated What would you expect to be able to do? Order out of a catalog? Of course, it depends on what "major city" you are talking about and where in the city. You will get quite some funny looks asking for dope in, say, Georgetown or on the corner of Madison and 55th. Ok, here are a few tips: 1. Go to a poor minority neighborhood. Ok, go to a black/hispanic neighborhood. (Hey, it's true, so lay off. I didn't make it so.) If you are middle-class, white, and/or scared (which I assume you are), and in NYC, "Alphabet City" (just east of the East Village) is a popular choice. Also, if the city has a needle exchange(s), you might find out where that is and ask around. (I have never tried this). 2. Get out of your car. There is drive-thru service in some places, but I personally don't like making this kind of transaction in the middle of the street. I am also not thrilled by the prospect of having my car seized if I happen to get caught in a reverse sting. 3. Take a deep breath, and realize that you may shortly be going to jail. (Well, it's possible). 4. Make eye-contact. Non-dealers will give you dirty looks. Dealers will often come right out and ask you what you want. This is, of course, provided you have chosen the right neighborhood and do not look like you're on your may to the opera (ie., dress down). You may not get to this point on the first try. Try again. You may get to this point and come away a few dollars poorer but with no drugs. Try again. It _can_ be done. Oh, by the way. Don't ask for "heroin", ask for "dope" or "d". (At least in the east). Good luck and happy felonies! ==================================================================== From: blah@blah.blah (Some wacky pseudonym) Subject: Re: Advice on how to do Heroin needed Date: 1996/01/25 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard johnf@netaxs.com (John French) <3105a513.18563017@netnews.netaxs.com> wrote: > > Stay in your car if you can. > Do NOT go into any buildings or alleys or even into an entranceway. Stay on > the street. Well, I suppose the market varies in its protocols among cities. I can imagine in L.A. for instance, where wheels are like feet, drive-thru is the way to go. In NYC, on the other hand, I can't imagine anyone coming to your car. In many places you'll _have to_ go into a house with somebody (difficult to do in a car) -- or have them go in for you (good way to get ripped off). > Assume everything you have in your possession will be taken from you. Do > not bring anything you want to keep. All the more reason not to be in your car. > If you are going to inject, bring your own works (hypodermic). Ah, for god's sake, use your nose! > You should be safe with one guy. Remember these people are for the most > part smart enough to figure out that if they cop for you, you will come > back to them. I guess they kinda know a person with lousy will power when > they see one. ;-> Except that it's better not to have anyone cop _for_ you. This will often end up in your new "partner" saying, "give me the money and I'll go get it for you." He won't go get it for you. Buy direct from a certified retail distributor. Remember that a dealer has more to gain from serving you well than from doing anything horrible to you. In my experience, they are generally quite cordial and businesslike - not "bad" people at all. Maybe John is harkening back to a more brutish era in the heroin market. Dealers today are growing accustomed to serving a more "upscale" client, and are probably more likely to treat you as a source of more business than as "prey" compared to years ago. You should still watch your ass, but I still find myself more afraid of the police than anything else. This is all kind of silly though. If you really want it you'll find it. ==================================================================== From: peter@petermc.demon.co.uk (Peter McDermott) Subject: Re: Advice on how to do Heroin needed Date: 1996/01/26 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard In article , blah@blah.blah (Some wacky pseudonym) wrote: >Maybe John is harkening back to a more brutish era in the heroin market. >Dealers today are growing accustomed to serving a more "upscale" client, Ah, you mean "new users" here, I guess. :-) ==================================================================== From: mondeYADDA@sirius.com (Monde) Subject: Re: Thinking about heroin - any advice? Date: 1997/06/06 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Peter McDermott wrote: > In article <19970601194600.PAA06697@ladder02.news.aol.com>, > ikoltunov@aol.com (IKoltunov) wrote: > > >]I am thinking of getting started on heroin, and I want to know what > >]you all think. Thanks. > >] > > d00d! Right on! You've come to the right place! I speak for everyone > >here when I tell you: H is a way-cool buzz, don't listen to all the > >lame-ass straights who tell you it'll ruin your life! Sheeet, if you > >wanna be REALLY hep, cat, you just G0ttA Gr00v on H. But hey, bayby, > >you're already hep to all that jive. Let me turn you on to some real > >El1TE shit! > > Yo, yo, yo, whassup kid? Don't you be listening to this fast-talkin' > huckster be fillin' yo' head wif all kindsa bullshit. He sees you a > new face in the 'hood and he be lookin' for just what he can get. > > If you want dope, you just come around here and ax for McDermott. > Everybody knows me, right? Because they *all* my customers here. > I works this spot, 24/4. If it ain't me, it be one of my soldiers, > and we *always* got the best dope. You better ax somebody. > > So look, I can see you a cool guy, right? You already know your > drugsm am I right or am I right? See, I *knows* a true fiend > when I see one. (Not like that motherfuckin' rip off artist > over there who be tryin' to sell you some scam.) Anyways, I > got whatchoo want, but the thing is, the smallest deal we do is > a fifty dollar bag. > > Hey, you want the best, don't you? Well, that's why we don't > fuck with no nickle and dime shit. We don't wanna deal with that > end of the market. It's more trouble than it's worth. We only > sell to discerning customers, like yourself, right? So how many > do you want? > > What do you mean, one? Shit no. I can't be bothered going to all > that trouble for one measly fifty dollar bag. You go away and get > a few friends together, and come back when you've got enough... > > Oh, I'll tell you what. Being as how you a new boy around here, > and as I said, I can see you a true fiend like myself, I'm gonna > do it for you just this one time. But that's it, mind. If you > come back here in an hours time wanting just one bag.. well, > just don't embarrass either of us by looking for no piss ant > single bags. Mos' of the cool guys here buy two or four at a > time, you know. > > Anyway, you just gimme your fifty and wait here while I > pick it up from my stash across the street. It's just in that > building there. I'll only be a second... [...time passes...] [...more time passes...] [...newbie looks at watch...] [...walks in circles...] [...swears...] [...smokes a cigarette...] [...swears LOUDLY...] [...kicks empty coke bottle against wall...] [...gets offered some 'screamin' dope for his watch...] [...accepts offer, face lighting up...] [...goes home, humming to self...] [...takes out bag of crumbled chocolate...] [...cries...]