From: here@there.everywhere (Your Name Here) Subject: Re: FAQ/Other Infor re Crack Addiction? Date: 1995/10/08 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard In article , abelaye@netcom.com (Anthony Abelaye) wrote: >does anyone know of any web sites or anywhere else where i might be able >to locate information about crack addiction? > >any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Sadly, unlike opioid "addicts", crackheads are generally not good for much besides smoking more crack and doing petty hustles to get more crack. So they haven't put much on the net yet. The "treatment" industry is full of hucksters and the well-intentioned who think they have a treatment. But there isn't any yet that can show evidence of its success. They will all claim otherwise. Ask for reputable citations. Here is all the info you really need: 1) There is no treatment as yet. 2) While quitting is very difficult, it _is_ possible, but every day spent smoking makes it all the harder. Just put it down now, and the craving will diminish gradually over time. ==================================================================== From: Nick Subject: Re: How addictive is crack? Date: 1996/12/17 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard >how addictive is smoking crack? >AFOAF claims that if you smoke it once it's an "instant addiction"... >sounds like BS to me :) It's not the crack you get addicted to first time, it is the rush - the rush is very strong & very pleasureable, so that is what will get you using again ASAP, not the drug per se - that comes a bit later ;-) ==================================================================== From: (Peter McDermott) Subject: Re: How addictive is crack? Date: 1996/12/17 newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard >people with experience, how addictive is smoking crack? >AFOAF claims that if you smoke it once it's an "instant addiction"... >sounds like BS to me :) I don't think it's an 'instant addiction', but it's incredibly compulsive. I'd been shooting coke occasionally for years without ever feeling it was a problem before I did crack. Then, the first time I did it, I spent the whole night picking up little pieces of shit off the floor and trying to smoke them, in the folorn hope that I might have dropped a tiny crumb. I only did it a few times after that. However, I know a lot of people who had been maintaining a junk habit with some degree of equanimity for years, but as soon as they started smoking rocks, they went right down the tubes. =========================================================== From: loonus@aol.com (Loonus) Subject: Re: crack! Date: 1997/11/05 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard >Just curious...What was it that drew you to crack? Was it the people? > Curiosity? In my case it was both...one of my buddies did it all the time, and I really didn't know he was that deep in it and I walked in one day when he was hitting the pipe with a few others in his kitchen. I tried it, because I had always wanted to and now five years later here's some damage that was done over that time: 1) Smoked away shit...probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 to 80 grand of just my own money. 2) Got shot at, stabbed, jumped by five gangbangers, beat up twice by cops, and thrown in the city lockup a couple times buying on the west side of Chicago. 3) Seen two friends go to prison for anywhere from one to fifteen years because of that shit. 4) Lost two very good jobs due to the fact that I never showed up 5) Couldn't pay my bills, got evicted, and lived in a car for about four or five months. 6) Literally got in fistfights with family members and my real friends who really care about me because of my use. Now, that's some things that come to mind...rock is one drug which the government is 100% right about.....it IS evil. It works TOO good, your body and mind simply cannot take that powerful of a high for long periods of time without seriously fucking both up. Smoker's in my area call it the devil's breath and for good reason. In my case, every time I feel like smoking (still at least once a day, and I've been clean for about a year) I just look at the physical scars on my body which wouldn't have been there if I never let rock take over my life, not to mention the emotional ones, and that is enough to make me smarten up. Your brother sounds just like the typical rock smoker...try hard to help him man. I'm all for drug use (as you probably could guess :) ) but abuse is a different thing. Addiction is a sad disease. I know I've been there and back a hundred times over. You just gotta be stronger that's the bottom line. Sometimes it's real hard for addicts to realize that smoking away your sorrows is a quick fix, a cop out. Hell if you die or wither your body away slowly and die a slow death (which WILL happen) you won't be able to live to enjoy the finer things in life like real friends, real fun, money, possessions, not to mention much cooler drugs :) oo 0' ' ' =============================================================== Newsgroups: alt.drugs.hard Subject: Re: Not enough Cocaine Stories in here!! From: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:48:17 GMT (GregMariusEBC) wrote: > I'd like to know more about any of you NG people's experiences > with it..how it rates to other drugs you've tried and the pro's > and con's of it.. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. This was coke for me. I used it for three years over a decade ago. Haven't touched it since. In 1987 I was at some friends' house 'doing lines', and somebody showed me how to do coke in a new and different way. Baking soda, water, spoon, knife, and a soda can for a bong. Soon after I was stealing change from my parents so I could spend the night crouched in my bathroom cooking rock after rock (just one more. okay this is the last one. okay, just until I finish this gram. okay, I might as well finish the eight ball...). It turned out that the guy who owned the business that I worked at was also a big time dealer and I soon made good friends with him and found myself making deliveries for him (he later got busted selling 2 kilos to the cops, which his girlfriend set up). Soon my friends who I thought 'had problems' with coke started telling me that I had problems with it. I once slept two and a half days after a 3-day run, missing 2 days of work and showing up on the third day unaware that I'd missed two days. Oh yeah and I started using percs every day to take the edge off (previously it had just been rec. use when I could get 'em. Now I made sure I had 'em). After I ran out of friends and money and all my connections were in jail or dead (and my dealer/boss was in Columbia for a month), I checked myself into a treatment centre in Arizona (back in those days Canada used to pay for people to go to the U.S. if we couldn't get into a place here right away). Back in those days I had hope for abstinence. Needless to say I relapsed right away, because my dealing friend got back from Columbia the same day I got back from Arizona. Coke was a weird drug for me. It had a way of sneaking up on me and making me into a slave without me even knowing it. I did a lot of stupid things that i could only see as stupid in retrospect. A major CON of coke for me was the paranoia, and the obsessions. On the other hand, one night I stood at my bedroom window and watched the stars drop for the sky, one by one, turning into little tinkerbells as they fell. I don't even think it did anything for me until I learned how to make crack (didn't even know that it WAS crack until much later)-- until then I did it more out of the excitement of doing it. It gave me more of a lift to know that I was sneaking off to the toilet in highschool to do coke, than it did actually doing the coke. I'd been pretty much a loser smart kid throughout highschool, and coke changed my image considerably. Now I'm afraid of coke. I have a weird fear thing for my heart racing. The last time I did coke I felt a pain in my chest that could've been a muscle spasm,but it scared the crap out of me. I stopped doing it because the dealer friend of mine inherited 2 oz. of heroin from a guy who had to go to jail, and he gave me the whole bag when he was drunk (after which I avoided him, lest he should want it back...). I liked it better than the percs I'd been using, and much better than coke. I never did coke again. ft